Saturday, November 26, 2005

Feminism

It seems like everyone is talking about feminism and the role of women in Orthodoxy. I guess it is time to give my take on it. But before I begin, I want to link an article I read about the issue. Ten Curses.
Ok, now for my perspective. As a Yeshiva Bachur and a card carrying member of the Jewish people, I find it hard to understand why some females will have an entire issue with feeling that they are being discriminated by "Orthodoxy." If I were to draw a comparison I would say that I, as an Orthodox Jew, feel discriminated by the Reform or Conservative movement, or even the Chilonim in Israel. They snub their nose at anyone remotely more religious than them and say thankfully to themselves how fortunate they are that they are not Orthodox. I have constantly seen comments by women bloggers and journalists how "Superior" they are over men. I have yet failed to see a woman who does NOT deem herself to be superior over men. Women are egotistical. It is a known biological fact. However, I bear them no grudge. Let them believe they are special. It is an undeniable fact that some people are smarter, prettier, and/or richer than others. It is undeniable that I will never ever become a president and neither with any of my decendants. Do I feel descriminated by the facts of life? NO. Will I ever be a black person? NO. Do I feel bad that I can't apply for affirmative action? NO. And the reason being is because that is a fact of life. Can a person strive to be all they can be in whatever social caste they happen to be in? YES. And they should. However, to make a religion a butt of controversy and personal interpritation while distorting the facts is being unjust to being truthful. Woman have an important and unreplaceable spot in our religion. They are the pillar of a Jewish home. To change your special and select job in a team and to go off on your own agenda hurts it for the entire team. Become a feminist, see if I care, I pity the poor fools.

9 Comments:

Blogger smb said...

As a Jewish woman, I feel that we women should apreciate our own role. We should look at what We have and see that we are great in our own way.

4:06 PM  
Blogger araya(uh-ray-uh) said...

I don't think that feminism is really woman not doing their part or appreciating it, it's about slowly being limited more and more every day. I am a frum girl and I feel constanly like I am being conatined and limited- it's not that I don't appreciate my role but I feel like I am being pushed to play out my role the way the teachers and rabbis want me to. I am told at least once a day that I need to get good grades so I can get into a good seminary so I will have a chance to marry into a good family. Yes- I do want to get married but not like that. I don't think that if I have kids I can't also have a job. I think for some people feminism is a joke and it is just them being ungreatful- but I think for others it's real. These are real issues that need to be taken care of and I think it's not so black and white.

4:41 PM  
Blogger smb said...

I understand what you are saying. And I agree that we shouldn't be pressured to be perfect.

What I was referring to was more about the mitzvos. Some women look at what men have to do instead of looking at their own obligations. And I feel that we should appreciate our own role

8:59 PM  
Blogger Shopaholic said...

"...Woman have an important and unreplaceable spot in our religion. They are the pillar of a Jewish home."

To right we are!!

I personally, think self esteem and self confidence is the key issue in feminism.
All feminist sound like they have no sense of self to know what her hishtadlus in life is and instead of looking inthemsevls, they blame it on the fact that they are not "equal" to men, and they need to right that by going to minyan, putting on tefflin etc.

If you're confident in who YOU are, and what your goals are, then you know you have all the tools you need to achieve everything G-d wants of you.

(I'm a little tired-I apologize if I sould like I'm rambiling)

6:18 PM  
Blogger Littleredridinghoodie said...

great post!

"I have constantly seen comments by women bloggers and journalists how "Superior" they are over men. I have yet failed to see a woman who does NOT deem herself to be superior over men. Women are egotistical. It is a known biological fact."

????????????
Where pray tell to you get this "fact" from?

Wow! Are you sure you are not projecting? I do not know any women that think they are better than men. Although, I can not wait till I we are paid better than a men then I will feel really special...

7:13 PM  
Blogger defen said...

"I have yet failed to see a woman who does NOT deem herself to be superior over men."

Here's one.

1:41 AM  
Blogger Hayim said...

You are right, this topic seems to be a burning issue. I left a few comments on The Rabbi's Kid (here : http://therabbiskid.blogspot.com/2005/11/can-i-be-orthofem.html), and do not want to repeat myself.

My main point is : not all orthodox feminists are troublemakers, some have valid reasons to feel discriminated.

I can easily give you a list of 20 differences between men are women that I find difficult to justify.

9:42 AM  
Blogger Chana said...

Wait, wait, wait- you have yet to see a woman who does not believe herself to be superior to men? What am I, then- the egotist of all time? How cruel, dear sir! *laughs* ;)

Anywho- feminism in Judaism is a tricky subject which I cannot adequately respond to in a comment. But I will go ponder this...

12:00 AM  
Blogger Avigayil said...

The superiority attitude is a pendulum swinging. It had swung too far to one side, saying women were inferior. So now in a effort to settle on the central truth, it swings too far to the other side. Think Rambam.

11:20 AM  

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